Saturday, March 6, 2010

The Bushbuddy Ultra Wood Burning Stove

There have been a lot of videos done on this venerable wood burner so I probably don't have a lot to add.  But for what it's worth, here's my take on the Bushbuddy Ultra.  A special thanks goes out to my good friend Dick Matthews who was kind enough to let me hold it hostage for so many months.  Dick, I promise you'll get her back!

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15 comments:

ADVENTUREinPROGRESS said...

I have been interested in these for quite some time. Since I travel with my family I have to cook large meals (typically around 5 people). How well would this stove work for boiling larger quantities of water, like say 2 quarts or so?

Jason Klass said...

I think it would work well since you can keep feeding it. 5 quarts is a lot but you might be able to get away with it.

ADVENTUREinPROGRESS said...

5 quarts is way too much. The most we typically would do is 2 quarts.

Jason Klass said...

AIP,
Sorry, I misread. 2 quarts should be fine.

Anonymous said...

Efficiently burning wood is not the same as efficiently converting the chemical energy stored in the wood into the heat in the water in the pot. The latter is what we're most interested in and can be determined by repeated testing with a sensitive scale to determine the amount of fuel required to increase the temperature of the water by a set amount. This is particularly difficult when the fuel is wood. About the only way to do it is to have the stove on the scale during the test. Light the fire, record the weight when the pot is put on the stove and when the water temperature reaches the target level.

Aaron said...

So what is the ruling on wood burning stoves in RMNP? Can you use wood stoves, or are the outlawed along with standard campfires?

Jason Klass said...

Aaron,

I just got off the phone with the backcountry office at RMNP. Here is how the conversation went:

ME: Hi, I was wondering if you can use wood burning stoves in campsites that aren't designated for campfires.

RMNP Guy: No, you can only use propane stoves in sites that aren't designated for campfires.

ME: So does that mean you can use them in sites that ARE designated for wood burning?

RMNP Guy: (with a slight attitude) Why would you want to carry a wood stove into a site that's designated for wood burning?

ME: That wasn't my question. I'm asking if it's against the regulations.

RMNP: You could only use it inside the fire ring.

ME: OK, thanks.

Aaron said...

Well then... I guess that answers that!

I was hoping that may have been a loophole allowing "fires" in back country spots, but I guess not.

I'm not complaining, I understand the "better safe than sorry" approach, but it would be nice to have a fire when family packing in the park...

it would also be nice to be able to bear bag, but I guess it's alcohol stoves and canisters from here on in!

Jason Klass said...

Aaron,
Yep. It won't be long before a ranger will have to hold your hand and take you to your campsite.

Anonymous said...

I think the reason the park service has such a conservative policy regarding wood burning stoves is because of the variety of products out there. Some wood "stoves" are little more than pot stands, while others completely enclose the fire and arrest sparks. The former is likely why they don't allow wood stoves.

Anonymous said...

My stove is the virtually identical Bushcooker and I have had difficulty with it. Twigs here in the UK, even when air dried, have a significant water content most of the time. They can be very reluctant when it comes to secondary combustion. Even when the fire is going well, just a little too much new kindling can stop the gasification.

Birch tends to be good and for some reason yields a lot of air dried wood. Cones burn even when picked up off damp ground. Other timbers, e.g. oak, seem to need to be in perfect condition before the stove is happy with them.

With perfectly dry birch, I can do the Ray Mears trick of lighting the stove with a spark on to a small piece of roughened birch bark but most of the time, I find the Bushcooker needs a lot of tinder, as you showed in your video, otherwise gasification takes a long time to get going.

samh said...

Another informative video, thank you, Jason.

Anonymous said...

It looked like your pot was pretty blackened, what do you do about cleaning? Do you ever have a problem with a sticky residue?

Jason Klass said...

Anonymous,
All wood stove leave a residue on your pot(though some more than others). It's something you have to accept if you want to use wood stoves. Many people just carry their pot in a stuff sack to keep it from getting the contents of your pack dirty. I have heard (but have not tried it) that putting soap on the outside of your pot helps prevent the residue from sticking. Some people wrap their pot in aluminum foil too. But hardcore wood stove users pretty much just deal with it.

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